Socrates Cafe Brooklyn & CNY – Seth Godin, “What is School for?” – May 6

Stop Stealing Dreams: What is School for?

Seth Godin,

“If it is work, they (students) try to figure out how to do less. If it is art, we try to figure out how to do more.”

Monday, May 6, 2013, 6:30 pm -8:30pm, Midtown


Seth Godin is sharply critical of our current education system and proposes 8 changes to turn it around.

We discussion Seth Godin’s TED Talk,
(Godin is not attending this event.)

Stop Stealing Dreams – What is School for?

Join us for food, drinks, and discussion.
Bring your observations.
Short social before start.
–Greet old friends and meet new ones.


6:30 pm Social

7:00 pm Conversation on Seth Godin’s TED Talk: Stop Stealing Dreams

8:30 pm + All are welcome to continue the conversation, self-moderated.

(Food court is open until 7:30 pm which is located two levels belowthe mezzanine tables where we will be holding the conversation. Mexican Grill open until 11 pm.)

TED Talk: Seth Godin, Stop Stealing Dreams.

1. What is school for?
What does our public education teach? How is success evaluated?

2. Seth Godin, “Does great performance in school leads to happiness and success?”

How does our society define “happiness” and “success?”
What does great performance in public school leads to?
How would you define “happiness” and “success?”

3. What would you want the purpose of public education to be and why?

4. What do you think of Seth Godin’s proposals?

Seth Godin
is the author of 14 books that have been bestsellers around the world and have been translated into more than 35 languages. Permission Marketing was a New York Times bestseller, Unleashing the Ideavirus is the most popular ebook every published, and Purple Cow is the bestselling marketing book of the decade. His free ebook on what education is for is called STOP STEALING DREAMS and it’s been downloaded millions of times since it launched in January, 2012.

In addition to his writing and speaking, Seth is founder of, a fast growing, easy to use website. His blog (which you can find by typing “seth” into Google) is one of the most popular in the world.

Please note that the Seth Godin is not attending this event. This event works like a book club, but the discussion topics are clips from TED (, “Ideas Worth Spreading”. Watching Seth Godin’s TED Talk beforehand is highly encouraged. If the venue permits, we’ll watch his approx. 17 minute TED Talk before the conversation and then spend an hour discussing the ideas presented.

About the Moderators:

Professor David Storey. Socrates Cafe Brooklyn

Ron Gross is the founder of Conversations New York. He’s been organizing exciting, important CONVERSATIONS for 20 years, and currently holds them regularly on the Columbia University campus and elsewhere through the city. He’s the author of 23 books on LIFELONG LEARNING. He was recently honored for lifetime achievement in the field by the International Society for Self-Directed Learning. The late Buckminster Fuller said of Ron’s work: “If humanity is to pass safely through its present crisis on earth, it will be because a majority of individuals are now doing their own thinking. Ronald Gross’ work has pioneered in improving the climate for such thinking in the United States.”

Yen is a graduate of the US Air Force Academy and a Master Navigator with career experience in the Federal, State, and corporate training/evaluation systems training and evaluating navigators, first-responders, and corporate trainers/employees for Fortune 100  companies. Currently he is a manager at Lyhun Realty.


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