“Let’s Talk, New York!” — Invitational Symposium Fuels Great Conversations – Jul 10


Report of Symposium held July 10, 2014 at Faculty House, Columbia University
Co-sponsored by Conversations New York

There is a robust revival of Conversation occurring today.   Face-to-face communication is being freshly understood, appreciated, championed, and enjoyed – as both a personal and a public good.  New kinds of conversations are addressing currently  compelling issues, employing  innovative facilitation techniques.  These small-group gatherings  are  enhancing  both personal fulfillment and democratic self-governance.  Conversation is re-emerging as a widespread, diverse, and effective way of enriching  our lives day-to-day, and of coping with our most divisive issues.

That is the overall theme which emerged from this Power of Conversation symposium on July 10, 2014.   The Symposium’s findings and conclusions follow.

We Need to Talk…As We Always Have

“Conversation is the iconic human activity. It’s who we are. Learning from each other – enjoying the sounds of our voices, yours and mine, exchanging thoughts and feelings, articulating, thinking beyond what we have in our own personal bank of resources. It is the main means by which we move forward together to create a future good for all.”

Sondra Myers, author of Democracy Is a Discussion:
Civic Engagement in Old and New Democracies

“Conversation is the most basic, most varied, and occasionally the most elevating of all human activities.  It is the way we convey information, inspire each other, and achieve understanding. Conversation is the way we challenge, amuse, and amaze each other.”
Jaida n’ha Sandra, The Joy of Conversation

Conversation has provided these joys and uses in virtually every era and culture.   It has enhanced the quality of life, nurtured relationships, and strengthened communities  — sometimes through sharp challenges to the status quo.   For example:

Native American tribes and other indigenous peoples traditionally have sat in a circle and talked together to deepen friendships and make collective decisions.

Socrates and his companions strolled the streets of 5th-century Athens, engaging in face-to-face conversations which laid the groundwork for the Western tradition of critical thinking.

Britains  turned the new coffee shops of 17th-century London into “Penny Universities” where constant conversation challenged conventional wisdom and official policy to such an extent that they were periodically shut down by the authorities.

Jewish women in 18th-century Europe, finding themselves doubly marginalized and excluded from cultural life, transformed their parlors, bedrooms, and attics into the salons which became hotbeds of philosophical, artistic, and cultural innovation.

Artists and intellectuals in the early 20th century in New York, Paris, and elsewhere, pioneered avant-garde thinking by convening in restaurants, bars, and people’s homes, as exemplified by the gatherings that anchored the Harlem Renaissance.

Mid-20th-century women throughout the world found each other by “Calling  the Circle,” discovered their own voices, and achieved greater fulfillment through the Feminist movement.

Protestors identifying themselves with the “99% of disenfranchised Americans” assembled in  Zuccotti Park in 2011 to launch the Occupy Movement, and put income inequality on the political agenda.

Towards a Renaissance of Conversation

This perennial tradition is being revived today. A renaissance of conversation is being eloquently championed by thought leaders, and passionately implemented by community-based enthusiasts – for both personal fulfillment and civic benefit.

“Look up, look at one another, and let’s start a conversation.” That is the powerful plea of Prof. Sherry Turkle of MIT, author of the acclaimed Alone Together: Why We Expect More From Technology and Less From Each Other. She urges us to transcend the digital gadgetry which has impelled us to “sacrifice conversation for mere connection….”

People are rediscovering the value of meeting face-to-face in small groups to discuss exhilarating and important subjects. They convene in coffee shops, bookstores, libraries, churches, community centers, parks. Projects like Conversation Cafes, Socrates Cafes, Café Philos, and even Death Cafes (to enhance living by talking candidly about death) are reviving the art of conversation. They are encouraging participants to pose challenging questions and consider different points of view, using a variety of simple but powerful guiding methodologies – or being boldly spontaneous.

The trend is not confined to the U.S. – Britain’s Financial Times reported recently that “public forums for the discussion of ideas are flourishing everywhere, from festivals to pubs.” One group in London has 2,000 members.

At the same time, conversation is emerging as essential to collaborative thinking and action. Organizations of all kinds, from non-profits to corporations to government agencies, are adopting innovative processes of conversation – most notably, the powerful technique called Dialogue — to address challenges more effectively.

Most promising in this public arena is a sharpening focus on the outcomes and benefits of these activities. Theorists and practitioners are asking: Does conversation lead to public decisions and actions, so that participants are encouraged by seeing tangible consequences of their participation?

Our Review of Projects, Programs, and Ideas

The Symposium explored the power of conversation in these two dimensions of our lives: personal fulfillment and collective achievement.

First, participants discussed initiatives to enhance our enjoyment of life, our health, and our happiness through three-minute presentations (“TED-3s”) on a number of outstanding projects and programs, including:

Café Philos,  HYPERLINK “http://www.nycafephilo.org/” http://www.nycafephilo.org/
From its origins in Paris 20 years ago, these grassroots forums for philosophical discussion have spread widely in Europe and the U.S., in cities ranging from NY, DC, and Boston, to Orlando, Denver, Atlanta, and Indianapolis.

Death Cafes,  HYPERLINK “http://www.deathcafe.com” http://www.deathcafe.com
The objective of Death Cafes is to increase awareness of death with a view to helping people make the most of their lives, by meeting socially, usually with food and drink, to share thoughts, feelings, and ideas.

Socrates Cafes,  HYPERLINK “http://www.philosopher.org/Socrates_Cafe.html” http://www.philosopher.org/Socrates_Cafe.html
Over 600 ongoing groups worldwide, inspired by the books and peripatetic activities of Christopher Philips, regularly bring people together to exchange ideas and experiences on the Socratic tradition.

The Family Dinner Project,  HYPERLINK “http://thefamilydinnerproject.org/” http://thefamilydinnerproject.org/
The Family Dinner Project helps families, schools, and community groups to engage in enjoyable, meaningful conversations while eating more quality meals together.

Conversation Cafes,  HYPERLINK “http://www.conversationcafe.org/” http://www.conversationcafe.org/
Open, hosted conversations in cafés as well as conference rooms and classrooms, using a simple process that helps to shift from small talk to big talk – conversations that matter.

Happiness Clubs,  HYPERLINK “http://www.happinessclub.com” http://www.happinessclub.com
A widespread network of conversation groups focused on happiness.

Socratic Conversations,  HYPERLINK “http://www.socratesway.com/join.html” http://www.socratesway.com/join.html
Monthly gatherings of students and faculty at Teachers College, Columbia University, to explore ideas and issues independent of academic structures.

Second, the Symposium reviewed and discussed the power of conversation to strengthen our capacity to achieve worthy goals in organizational, professional, and civic life. The presentations highlighted such projects and programs as:

The National Coalition for Dialogue & Deliberation,  HYPERLINK “http://www.ncdd.org” http://www.ncdd.org
NCDD is a network of thousands of professionals who bring people together to tackle challenging issues. The Coalition serves as an on-line gathering place, a resource clearinghouse, a news source, and a facilitative leader for this community of practice.

National Dialogue Network,  HYPERLINK “http://www.nationaldialoguenetwork.org/” http://www.nationaldialoguenetwork.org/
The NDN seeks to coordinate local conversations into mindful national dialogues. Its design and function is meant to strengthen local civic infrastructures.

Democracy Is a Discussion Handbooks,  HYPERLINK “http://www.sondramyers.org/books/democracy-is-a-discussion/” http://www.sondramyers.org/books/democracy-is-a-discussion/
This series of handbooks and related materials created by Sondra Myers are used throughout the world as a gateway to understanding democracy and the role that citizens play in making democracy work.

Interactivity Foundation,  HYPERLINK “http://www.interactivityfoundation.org” http://www.interactivityfoundation.org
The Foundation works to engage citizens in the exploration and development of possibilities for public policy through small group discussions.

Creating We Institute,  HYPERLINK “http://www.creatingwe.com/” http://www.creatingwe.com/
“Everything happens through conversations,” declares author Judith E. Glaser, who works with organizations to enhance their effectiveness. “To get to the next level of greatness depends on the quality of the culture, which depends on the quality of relationships, which depends on the quality of conversations.”

Conversations New York (CNY)

The Symposium also reviewed plans for Conversations New York ( HYPERLINK “http://www.conversationsnewyork.com” http://www.conversationsnewyork.com), a not-for-profit, volunteer initiative to enhance the quality of our lives and the healthfulness of our communities, through conversation.

LET’S TALK, NEW YORK! is the invitation extended by CNY for New Yorkers to come together in small groups of neighbors and fellow citizens to discuss topics that are enjoyable, interesting, and important, hosted at no cost and at convenient locations and times,  and inspired by simple guiding principles. Such conversations celebrate the city’s diversity, creativity, resourcefulness, friendliness, and civic vision.

A website has been launched ( HYPERLINK “http://www.conversationsnewyork.com” http://www.conversationsnewyork.com) with a monthly calendar of such conversations, which is already enabling over 500 followers and many more daily visitors to use the web to get off the web – to find or create opportunities to talk face-to-face.

CNY has two specific objectives: More Conversations, and Better Conversations.
More Conversations are promoted by “curating” from those already occurring throughout the city, and by initiating new ones.  Better Conversations are promoted by providing resources and consultation on best practices in designing, moderating, and evaluating conversations for continual improvement.

The goal is to have well over  100 public conversations occurring every day (two in each of the city’s 60 neighborhoods)  by January 1, 2015.

Bibliographical Note

Recent popular books (and some classics in the field) are inspiring and guiding people towards making better conversations part of their life and work.  There will be a comprehensive selection of these titles on display at the Symposium, thanks to Jennifer Govan and her associates at the Gottesman Libraries at Teachers College.

A Good Talk: The Story and Skill of Conversation, Daniel Menaker
Conversation: A History of a Declining Art, Stephen Miller
Conversation: How Talk Can Change Our Lives, Theodore Zeldin
Conversation—The Sacred Art: Practicing Presence in an Age of Distraction, D. Millis
Conversational Intelligence, Judith E. Glaser
Creating Conversations: Improvisation in Everyday Discourse, R. Keith Sawyer
Democracy is a Discussion Handbooks, Sondra Myers
Dialogue: Rediscover the Transforming Power of Conversation, L. Ellinor and G. Gerard
Dialogue and the Art of Thinking Together, William Isaacs
How Conversation Works, Ronald Wardhaugh
I and Thou, Martin Buber
On Dialogue, David Bohm
Socrates’ Way, Ronald Gross
The Art of Conversation, Catherine Blyth
The Magic of Dialogue: Transforming Conflict Into Cooperation, Daniel Yankelovich
The Tao of Conversation, Michael Kahn
Why Can’t We Talk? John Backman



Home: Sharing Our Quests to Find or Create the Place We Need Most – May 29


Sharing Our Quests to Find or Create the Place We Need Most
Thurs., May 29th, 4 – 5:15 pm

Socratic Conversation with Ron Gross
Gottesman Library, Teachers College, 525 West 120th St.
(#1 train to 116th St. — location between Broadway and Amsterdam Avenue)
(Coffee etc. can be purchased in cafe on ground floor)

RSVP to grossassoc@aol.com
and http://www.meetup.com/Conversations-New-York/events/183596732/

Photo ID required to enter building 

Please come to share your experiences, thoughts, feelings, and understanding:
  • What does Home mean to you? (Intimacy? Family? Style? Comfort? Well-Being? Security? Status? And/Or…?)
  • Your First Home – what was most important about it?
  • Where are you now in your quest for your true Home? (Seeking? Creating? Remembering? Questioning?)
  • Escape from Home: Do we need “Third Places” that are neither Home nor Work?
  • Homelessness as a Societal Scourge: Here in the Greater New York area, and among Displaced Persons Worldwide (“Send these, the homeless…to me.”)
  • “Home” as Metaphor: The concept of a national Homeland, Earth as Humanity’s “Home”

Optional Reading Suggestions:  Home: A Short History of an Idea; by Witold RybczynskiAt Home, by Bill Bryson; The Inspired Home: Nests of Creativity, by Kim Ficaro.

Where: 104b Russell Hall

Next conversation: Thursday, 7/24, Topic TBA

Inspired by Socrates’ famous conversations with his friends in the marketplace of 5th century Athens, we engage in spirited discussions of ideas and issues. Socratic conversations range broadly and probe deeply into the basic challenges of life. They are informed by the latest literature for reference and follow up. While building a sense of community, these meetings enliven the intellectual atmosphere and model dialogue and discussion as modes of inquiry. They are part of a year long series of Socratic Conversations hosted by the Gottesman Libraries.

These highly-participatory conversations are moderated by Ronald Gross, author of Socrates’ Way and Co-chair of the University Seminar on Innovation in Education.

“I Was a Child Abuser!”: How Media Mis-representations Promote Misguided and Ineffective Approaches to Child Protection – May 5

The University Seminars on
Ethics, Moral Education, and Society
Innovation in Education

“I Was a Child Abuser!”: How Media Mis-representations Promote Misguided and Ineffective Approaches
to Child Protection

Date: MAY 5 at 7 PM
at Gottesman Library, Teachers College, 525 West 120th Street,
Seminar Room 305, Russell Hall

Bio: Emily Horowitz is associate professor in the Sociology Department at St. Francis College in Brooklyn.  She is completing a book about myths and realities of crimes against children (under contract, Rowman & Littlefield), and has a forthcoming article in Psychology of Popular Media Culture on child abuse stories in American high-circulation magazines. She also works as an advocate for those falsely accused and/or wrongfully convicted of sexually and/or physically harming children. She received her Ph.D. from Yale University in Sociology in 2002.

Links: Huffington Post article by Emily Horowitz on Halloween Laws for Sex Offenders (October 2014): http://www.huffingtonpost.com/emilyhorowitz/manufacturing-fear-hallow_b_4135793.html


Presentation: This talk will address the past few decades of mass media coverage of crimes against children and the new laws, including the explosion of sex offender laws, aimed at protecting them.  I shall connect the rampant media coverage and extensive new legislation to a broader historical and social context, in an effort to understand the causes and consequences of the historic and persistent hysteria and irrationality about this issue. I argue that child protection efforts emerge from the telling of sensational stories about abused children and abusive adults, transmitted in ways that support American cultural beliefs concerning individual responsibility for personal behavior and economic circumstances. Additionally, I will study examples of how this narrative persists in mass media, by examining the content and frequency of stories about child abuse. While data and research consistently show that crimes against children are inexorably linked to poverty and economic distress, the mass media story about child abuse focuses on the most egregious and statistically rarest cases (e.g., child kidnapping by strangers). Consequently, or correspondingly, laws emerge that sanction these exceedingly unusual events (e.g. child sexual abuse by strangers). I will consider how such a narrative regarding the behaviors of evil and immoral people creates and maintains a misguided and ineffective approach to child protection, in the structural realms of American social welfare, criminal and legislative policies. Finally, I shall also suggest how this discourse influences adult and child interaction at the individual level.


Dinner: To augment the fellowship among members, you are warmly invited to join other members for dinner at Faculty House at 5:30 PM.  (After dinner we will walk to Teachers College, 10 minutes away).  Dinner at Faculty House, a varied and ample buffet (including wine), is $25, which must be paid for by check at the beginning of the meal.  If you intend to join us for dinner you must let us know via email a week in advance (by Monday, April 28).  RSVP to either Ron Gross (grossassoc@aolcom) or Michael Schulman (mdschlmn41@yahoo.com).


Directions to Faculty House:  Faculty House is located on Columbia University’s East Campus on Morningside Drive and 117th Street.  Enter Wien Courtyard through the gates on the north side of 116 Street,between Amsterdam Avenue and Morningside Drive. Walk toward the north end of the courtyard, then turn right toward Morningside Drive.  Faculty House will be the last building on the right.


The Seminars: This seminar is jointly sponsored by the Columbia University Seminars on Innovation in Education and Ethics, Moral Education, and Society.

The Seminar on Innovation in Education is co-chaired by Ronald Gross, who also conducts the Socratic Conversations at the Gottesman Libraries, and Robert McClintock who is John L. and Sue Ann Weinberg Professor Emeritus in the Historical and Philosophical Foundations of Education at Teachers College. Founded in 1970, the Seminar explores the process of learning in individuals, organizations, and society throughout the lifespan and via major institutions.

The Seminar on Ethics, Moral Education and Society, chaired by Michael Schulman,  brings together scholars from psychology, philosophy, sociology, political theory, education, religion and other disciplines to explore issues in ethics, moral education, moral development, moral motivation, moral decision making and related topics.


This is our last meeting of the 2013-14 academic year.

Columbia University encourages persons with disabilities to participate in its programs and activities.  University Seminar participants with disabilities who anticipate needing accommodations or who have questions about physical access may contact the Office of Disability Services at 212-854-2388 or disability@columbia.edu.  Disability accommodations, including sign-language interpreters, are available on request.  Requests for accommodations must be made two weeks in advance.  On campus, seminar participants with disabilities should alert a Public Safety Officer that they need assistance accessing campus.


Michael Schulman, chair, Ethics, Moral Education, and Society, mdschlmn41@yahoo.com

Ron Gross, co-chair, Innovation in Education, grossassoc@aol.com